Hey Hey WHAT century are we living in?

This is what passes for entertainment in Australia. It was on national TV last night and today the media is awash with debate about whether or not it constituted racism. The general consensus from the bogan masses of this country seems to be that everyone should get a sense of humour and have good old brain-dead laugh at it all. I tend to think that if you don’t believe it was racist, YOU ARE A RACIST! You may not be burning crosses, wearing pillow cases on your head or trying to murder people but you’re a lousy racist sack of shit all the same.

Some Australians seem to be under the misapprehension that if they think something funny, that perception of humour cancels out any perception of racism experienced by anyone else. IT CUNTING WELL DOESN’T! It’s the sort of boozy logic that leads footy players to think that because they want the girl she automatically wants all of them. She may have thought she was gang-raped but that was just her being a bad sport and she should really get over it. If she wasn’t so uptight she’d admit that in fact she had a great time. 

Too much? Let’s look at it seriously. What is funny about the above skit? There was no amazing choreographic homage; there was no satirical reworking of MJ’s lyrics. It was white people dressed in black face and an Indian guy who says he’s never been called racist in his life (because if your skin is brown you can’t possibly be racist, can you?) dressed in white face. These shining members of the Australian medical profession – yes, these are educated Australians – have gone two for one, compounding racism with bad taste. Perhaps the best value in the sewer this week. Perhaps not. 

But it was just a bit of fun. 

Really? Take away the make up and what do you have? Oh yeah, nothing! That was the act. That was the gag.

It’s funny because they’re white guys who are pretending to be black! See, that guy’s face is painted white because MJ was black but he looked white! He’s pretending to be a black guy who’s self-mutilating to make himself look like a white guy due to his deep self-hatred, a legacy left over from an abusive childhood! Aaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha get me another pair of pants! That’s gold!

FUCK YOU!!! 

Australia is a very racist country. We don’t like to think of ourselves as racist but that’s just denial. Refer to the last 221 years. We usually hide it behind a mask of humour nowadays but that doesn’t make it any less ignorant or wrong. Pretending it’s all matesy Aah, you ol’ black bastard, ya! doesn’t remove the degradation, humiliation or inherent violence from it. It just makes you feel better about being a cunt. Racism hurts people and divides society. It is ugly and absurd. If you want to make racist jokes with your racist mates, don’t fucking well do it in public, keep that feral shit to yourself! 

I do have a sense of humour but I fail to see anything funny about a plastic surgeon making racist jokes with his rich doctor mates on national TV insulting a recently deceased legend who was plagued with the sort of psychological problems that keep said plastic surgeon and his industry in business. At the very least it was in extremely poor taste but if we’re truly honest with ourselves we have to acknowledge it as bare-faced racism and spurn it as such. Fuck you, Channel 9 for approving this shit for broadcast! Fuck you, Hey Hey It’s Saturday, for being a shitty, out-dated dog turd of a show recycling 20 year old bigotry. Fuck you, redneck bogan wankers of Australia, who are too stupid to realise you are racist scum-sucking cretins! FUCKING DIE!!!

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To Harry Connick Jr, respect! Nice work calling it like it is and having the balls to go against the grain in a foreign land.

25 Responses to “Hey Hey WHAT century are we living in?”

  1. pinklippy Says:

    Just when I thought it was safe to re-enter the country…

  2. YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!!!!! absolutely!! I was horrified when I saw that on saturday night and (quite seriously) have reconsidered friendships over this issue as so many people have actually said the words “lighten up” when I’ve expressed disgust. Do they really think it’s acceptable let alone funny?? I can’t look at them in the same light any more if they do.

    You are absolutely right. there was nothing even remotely funny about the act even without all the tragic, unhealthy, unsettling background considerations. And as for Harry Connick Jr ~ I’m still not going to rush out and buy any of his albums, but he certainly flew up a dozen or so notches in my estimation. I felt quite embarrassed to be australian when that aired.

    right. I have ranted. wow. thanks for letting me vent 🙂

  3. Hey, Hey, Australian TV just hit rock-bottom! What were the producer’s thinking by allowing that shit skit to be aired? Was Hey! Hey! It’s Saturday even popular in its hay-day? It’s chaotic and exhausting to watch even for a minute.Quality television just got murdered by bringing that show back from oblivion.

  4. oops! I would like to correct my previous comment ~ I wrote saturday instead of wednesday night.

    • If you are white, you are racist because you are benefitting more from society than a dark skinnined human.

      That is what they are teaching at University in Australian Studies, so simply calling out and talking about how some white guys painted themselves with black faces, look deeper, they are all doctors, they have all benefitted from, and if you watched it on TV your racist too because you have a TV, most probably a flatscreen.

      im not racist…………i hate em all. including the author of this hypocritical self-righteous site. It isn’t bare-faced racism….WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER IMPERSONATORS OUT THERE? FUCK! THEY MUST BE RACIST AS WELL, yes it was in bad taste, but it was not intneded as racial, Idiots of society spun in like that, including yourslef who obviously succumb to media portrayals that it was racist and bad.

      FUCK YOU SHEEP

  5. First and foremost, Australia sucks.
    Secondly, big fucking deal. I’m tired of this repeated bullshit springing from every orifice of the self righteous.
    Oh no, you painted your face, racist. Kudos.
    Your aboriginal athelete fucked off the Australian flag in favor of the aboriginal one. Nah, wasn’t disrespect or racism, it was pride. How brave.
    Why is it these days that it seems the only people that can be racist are white?
    Rap ‘artists’ will scream whitey, cracker and any other slur they can pull out of the bowl of retardery, but the second someone white doesn’t take it with a grain of salt, or responds with a slut, they’re hit with the wrath of almighty hell as if they were fresh from the SS in ’44.

    When political correctness is allowed to take root, people bitch about the most inane things. And here’s the page which prooves this.

    I know Australians are scum and deserve to die however: “Fuck you, redneck bogan wankers of Australia, who are too stupid to realise you are racist scum-sucking cretins! FUCKING DIE!!!”

    This, seems to conflict with this: “I tend to think that if you don’t believe it was racist, YOU ARE A RACIST!”

    Congratulations! You’re a hypocrite!

  6. ‘The Jackson Jive’ where impersonating black people. Would it not have been such an issue if it where black people where impersonating the Jackson Five? Think of the amount of skits not just in Australia, but the US and around the world that impersonate and make light of white celebrites and figures, by both black and white people.

    Would there be outcry if it had been reversed? A black person impersonating a white person?

    This skit was not intened to be racist and make fun of black people but to make fun of Micheal Jackson and the Jackson Five, who happen to be black. Essentially, they where just in costume.

    It is sad that becasue of this the rest of the world views Australia and all Australians as ignorant and racist, as this is not the case.

  7. I really think that comedy should be left to be comedy.
    And if certain people think it is funny to watch this, let them. That’s their upbringing, mentality, ability to function. It may not even be their own fault.
    It’s a free country.
    We pretend to enjoy free speech.
    Should the cast of ‘Priscilla – Queen of the Desert’ be arrested for disservice to that community?
    It is all a matter of perspective, and everyone must stop playing moral police immediately.
    We already live in a massive nanny state, being nurse-maided through every step we take.
    If we claim freedom, then we must truly release everyone to be free. Some will conform to each of our ideals, and others will not. But that’s the very nature of freedom.
    And I’m all for it.
    I dare you to say you are not…

  8. Thank Christ I”m not the only Australian who was amazed at the near-universal response to this. And yes, the fact the turkeys doing this act are all doctors lifts it from unacceptable to beyond belief. If highly educated professionals think this shit is okay, what can we expect from the average Aussie bogan?

    To make it worse, my brother in law has a ‘fuck off, we’re full’ Australia map bumper sticker on his car. Luckily we don’t speak to that side of the family, but I grit my teeth whenever I remember.

    Fucking wankers.

  9. Funny it was not. But racist? How?

    If a man dresses up as a woman for laughs, is that sexist? I don’t see what it is about this act that even hints that there is anything inferior about being black.

    According to you, this makes me racist. Well, that and a redneck bogan wanker. And scum. And here I was thinking that I believed all people were equal. I guess I must be too stupid to realise I’m racist.

    As somebody who isn’t stupid, maybe you can tell me what it is about this act that actually makes it racist. You’ve stated that being funny doesn’t make a racist joke no longer racist, and I agree. But you haven’t said what it is about this act that is racist, and I would like to know.

    • Buck Frain Says:

      @ Ryan,
      1. History makes it racist. The black & white minstrel acts of the 19th and 20th centuries portrayed African Americans as clowns and buffoons. They belittled an already oppressed minority in society for the amusement of their oppressors. After a couple of hundred years of slavery was finished with the white populace if the U.S. had to find a way of coping with their collective fear of the African Americans now roaming free among them. The comic image of the happy-go-lucky plantation “darky” was simple and amusing. When black performers started performing in these shows they also had to wear blackface so as not to astonish or disturb the white public with the variety of their hues. Finally, in 1967 the British bowed to pressure and took their highly successful but atrociously racist Black & White Minstrel Show off the air. The same year we in Australia decided to count indigenous Australians as citizens in the land they had been custodians of for 50,000 years.
      Just because you don’t know history does not cancel out the fact that dressing up in blackface is bad form. If they’d dressed up as Aborigines and jumped around with didgeridoos it may have been easier to see it for what it was.
      2. Context makes it racist. Racism hurts people, that’s why we don’t do it. If these guys performed this skit in their backyard for a couple of racist mates everyone would have laughed and we wouldn’t be having this discussion. The fact that it was broadcast to a potential audience of 20 million people is a problem. Australia is a pluralistic society and no matter how white you are, lots of Australians aren’t. We have a growing African Australian population, they’re a minority. I would imagine for anyone with dark skin in this country would find such an insensitive display disturbing and the lack of comprehension, by Australians at large, at its offensiveness would make those people feel less safe here. If you’ve never experienced being a minority you wouldn’t understand and I think that’s part of the problem.

      @Haydn
      The reason Pricilla is different is that it is a movie that presents characters who are part of minority, and while it shows the prejudices against them in society it shows how the individuals concerned deal with that and shows some of the diversity within their world. Works of art can present prejudice without being necessarily being prejudiced because they present a world around the unjust act. It’s like the difference between a movie about domestic violence e.g. Once Were Warriors and really bashing fuck out of your wife.
      The skit was just a racist gag. It was offensive. Just because it didn’t offend you doesn’t mean it should be condoned by civilised society. With freedom comes responsibility. If you want to live in a pluralistic society that allows everyone to live according to their own beliefs you must be sensitive to what others in society consider offensive. I’m all for freedom, but I’m not naive enough to think it’s a free ticket to be as much of a cunt as I want.

      • In response to your first point, historically yes, I agree that blackface has been used almost exclusively to portray black people in a racist manner. But the make up and the racism aren’t inherently linked. At the time when blackface was popular, so was racism. So, in many people’s minds, they were linked. If you put on black face paint, it was to depict a black person, and if you were depicting a black person, chances are it was from a racist viewpoint.
        But unless they actually *are* in some way showing black people to be inferior, or portraying black people generally in a bad light, I don’t see the racism. If they dressed up as aboriginals and danced around, I’m sorry, I still don’t see how that makes them racist. I don’t think that aboriginals playing didgeridoos is a negative thing. If they dressed up as aboriginals and sniffed petrol, got into fights etc. that would be a pretty clear demonstration of racism.

        But you know what, I do think it was bad form to dress up in blackface. I think it’s offensive because of it’s racist history. Eventually, it became normal to cast black people in black roles, and obviously, not to paint them up or portray them as negative stereotypes (although when you think about it, you can go to the movies today and see racist stereotypes without looking too hard) so to a lot of people, especially Americans, to put blackface on is to state “I am intending to be racist.” Which is offensive.

        But I don’t think that these doctors were intending to make that statement. They were offensive because they *should* have known that wearing blackface can upset people. That still doesn’t make what they did racist, by any definition of the word.

        In regards to your second point, I don’t completely disagree. The fact that it was broadcast to an audience of 20 million is a problem. And racism does hurt people. But I don’t think that the act was racist, and I don’t think that being black would immediate make a person offended by the act. I think it’s MORE likely that Americans would be offended than Africans or Australians, because blackface has very strong, negative connotations to Americans. I don’t imagine blackface ever got off the ground much in Africa.
        What you’re saying about how black minorities must feel in Australia, I would completely agree with, IF the act had some sort of anti-black message. But it doesn’t. If I went to a black country that thought it was okay to put on white face paint and badly re-enact the Beatles, I wouldn’t feel threatened.

        I’ve never experienced being a minority, that’s true. I was born a white male. I’ve never had to experience prejudice the way minorities have. I’ve still experienced prejudice. I’ve been told I don’t belong in this country because of the colour of my skin. I’ve been told I’m not as good because of my gender. But I’ve never felt unsafe, never felt scared that I would be targeted because of what I am. If you want to hold that against me, that’s your prerogative, but I’ve always tried to treat people equally, and with understanding.

        I guess my main point of argument is that you shouldn’t use the word RACIST lightly, because it is a very offensive term, and can be hurtful. I still don’t feel like you’ve explained properly how the act is racist, and considering the difficulty you’re having in explaining how the act is racist, I really don’t think it’s fair to say that anybody who doesn’t believe it is racist is racist themselves.

        Maybe it would be more reasonable to say that if you don’t believe it is offensive then you are being inconsiderate to the people who are offended by it, by overlooking the history of prejudice they’ve experienced.

        As a child I was lucky enough to meet a Jewish Holocaust survivor who told me not to hate racist people. I had trouble with the concept at first, but eventually I worked out it’s just another way to hate, and it doesn’t help things. You won’t change people’s minds by labeling them and being hurtful.

      • Buck Frain Says:

        @ Ryan,
        Racism is like any other form of harrassment. It is in the eye of the beholder. If it hurts you it doesn’t fucking matter what the fucking intention behind it was. If you like the new girl in the office so much you want to give her a nice little squeeze on the arse, it doesn’t matter how pure your intentions are, if she doesn’t like it you’re sexually harrassing her. You may think it’s a ridiculous analogy but ask female office workers of the 1970s whether they do. Do ya fuckin’ get it? Big fucking deal if you as a white male have been put down by a couple of rare individuals for your skin colour or gender, your demographic is the power demographic of society so you get over it. Why? Because you don’t have to give a fuck, you rule. Try having the majority of society subjugating your entire existence because of your race, gender, sexuality or beliefs and see how you feel. You can’t see it as racism, I guess the view from the winners’ table is just too sweet. Fuck you, Ryan, your blindness is a fucking disgrace. You’ll never understand it because you’ll never experience it and you’ll never be able to imagine having never lived any other way. I’m sure you’re a nice guy, you’re certainly articulate, but you’re inability to see the elephant in the room is thoroughly fucked! I don’t use the word RACIST lightly. I call it like it is. You don’t have to intend racism to be racist. That’s the problem with the majority, they don’t see that every day life isn’t fair because they benefit from the inequality that exists. The prosperity white Americans enjoy is built on 400 years of African blood, the prosperity of white Australians is built on 200 years of Aboriginal blood. Like it or not, you currently benefit from the past and continuing suffering of others. The playing field is not even so don’t fucking pretend that something you can shrug off once in a lifetime is in any way comparable to something that others endure their whole lives.

      • Wow, okay. Firstly, racism isn’t a form of harassment. To quote Wikipedia “Racism is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.” If you call somebody racist you are saying that they hold to a particular belief. You are saying that they believe that their race is better than another race (technically, you’d still be racist if you thought your own race was inferior, but that rarely happens).

        I do think your analogy is ridiculous, because you’re confusing the issue. You are of course right to say that intention doesn’t stop actions from being hurtful. But hurting somebody accidentally is not the same as harassing them, and it’s not the same as being racist. Let’s take a fairly poignant example. Right now, I feel that you are discriminating against me based on my race. I actually do, I’m not just making a point. If you take your argument to its logical conclusion, then you must admit that YOU are racist. Unless you want to claim that my opinion of racism doesn’t count for anything, and then you’re kind of shooting yourself in the foot anyway.

        Secondly, you just told me to “get over” being racially and sexually discriminated against. The reason I should just get over it, BECAUSE I’M WHITE. A white MAN. Is there anybody LESS deserving of sympathy than a white man, in your opinion?

        Thirdly, you say that it’s impossible for me to know what it’s like to be really discriminated against, and then you say that my blindness is a fucking disgrace. You want to claim that I can’t understand what minorities go through, and condemn me for it at the same time. So, unless I can TURN MYSELF INTO A MINORITY, I guess I’m just fucked, am I? Guess I should just go back to chugging beer and yelling at the TV because APPARENTLY THERE’S NO HOPE FOR ME. I know that what I go through isn’t comparable with what pretty much any other race has had to go through, (In fact, I said as much in my last comment) but if you think that opinions like yours are something I only have to put up with once in a lifetime you are way off the mark.

        Lastly, you DO have to intend to be racist to be racist. Racism is a belief, not an action. Get your facts straight. You’ve been so willing to hoe into me for all my ignorance, but when you really look at it, YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANS. I’m not going to call you names or swear at you. But all those things you were happy to call me for not understanding what racism is, how about you turn right around and say them about yourself.

      • Buck Frain Says:

        @ Ryan,
        You are a cock! I’m at this very moment weeping inconsolably for the terrible plight of white men in developed nations. Especially the middle-class, educated ones with access to the internet, they’ve really got it tough. Do you really believe that there are no ignorant racists? No people who grew up learning racism by default rather than making conscious choices about it in later life? Beliefs are not always chosen, and what we think we believe isn’t always what we actually believe. Our actions reveal the truth about what we think. I am white and male, like you, I don’t think your charge of racial persecution by another white male is going to get a lot of press. I think you’re a fucking big sook and I’d love to kick fuck out of you, not for your colour or gender but because you’re a fucking idiot and your pretending to be hard done by is like John Howard crying poor because someone from the stolen generation called him an arsehole. I reckon you should suck it up and widen your source of reading material beyond Wikipedia. Read some fucking books, douchebag! You don’t know what you’re talking about. You are a fuckstick! Eat shit and die!

      • Now you are just being idiotic. I never claimed that white men are suffering from some terrible plight. In fact, if you bothered to READ what I have said, you’d see that I’ve emphatically stated that I don’t think what I’ve been through is anything like what oppressed minorities go through.

        Of course there are ignorant racists, but ignorant of their own BELIEFS? Get real. I suppose there are a whole bunch of people who think they are racist but actually respect everybody equally? Or a whole bunch of people who think they are Christians but they’re really Buddhist! If there is one thing that a person knows, it is what they believe. In fact, it is the ONLY thing a person can know, their own beliefs. Everything else is just what they believe. SOME people don’t realise that they are racist, because, get this: THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANS! They say things like “I’m not racist, but I think that black people are more violent than white people.” They still know what they believe, they just don’t know that that belief DOES actually mean that they are racist. That doesn’t mean that they are ignorant of what they believe. Just ignorant of what the word RACISM means, like you.

        Oh dear my claims of “Racial persecution” won’t get much press? I sure was hoping for some press! Heck, whatever am I going to do for press now? I was claiming that you were discriminating against me based on my race, not persecuting me, and you were. But hey, NEWS FLASH: BEING WHITE DOESN’T MAKE IT OKAY TO DISCRIMINATE. I kinda figured that you might be smart enough to work that one out, at least.

        You can want to beat me up all you like but it doesn’t change the fact that I won this argument, and showed you to be the bigot you are.

        Hmm, I think I will go read a book, actually.

        Oh and, http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=873731
        Michael Jackson’s brother doesn’t think the skit was intended to be offensive. Why don’t you go call him a fucking racist?

      • Buck Frain Says:

        “SOME people don’t realise that they are racist, because, get this: THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANS!”
        Vs.
        “If there is one thing that a person knows, it is what they believe. In fact, it is the ONLY thing a person can know, their own beliefs. ”

        If one does not realise one’s beliefs are racist, one may engage in racist behaviour unwittingly. When challenged on that behaviour for the resultant hurt it caused, the offender could quite conceivably say they never intended to be offensive and, while this may result in their being forgiven, it would not mean the behaviour was no longer racist.

        Did you really win the argument, Ryan, or did you just keep missing on the point? I’m starting to think you’re being deliberately stupid to get attention.

  10. Enough of trivial issues, I have a more important question that I think needs resolving – if Pinocchio said “my nose will grow right now, what would happed”?

  11. Now you are just being idiotic. I never claimed that white men are suffering from some terrible plight. In fact, if you bothered to READ what I have said, you’d see that I’ve emphatically stated that I don’t think what I’ve been through is anything like what oppressed minorities go through.

    Of course there are ignorant racists, but ignorant of their own BELIEFS? Get real. I suppose there are a whole bunch of people who think they are racist but actually respect everybody equally? Or a whole bunch of people who think they are Christians but they’re really Buddhist! If there is one thing that a person knows, it is what they believe. In fact, it is the ONLY thing a person can know, their own beliefs. Everything else is just what they believe. SOME people don’t realise that they are racist, because, get this: THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANS! They say things like “I’m not racist, but I think that black people are more violent than white people.” They still know what they believe, they just don’t know that that belief DOES actually mean that they are racist. That doesn’t mean that they are ignorant of what they believe. Just ignorant of what the word RACISM means, like you.

    Oh dear my claims of “Racial persecution” won’t get much press? I sure was hoping for some press! Heck, whatever am I going to do for press now? I was claiming that you were discriminating against me based on my race, not persecuting me, and you were. But hey, NEWS FLASH: BEING WHITE DOESN’T MAKE IT OKAY TO DISCRIMINATE. I kinda figured that you might be smart enough to work that one out, at least.

    You can want to beat me up all you like but it doesn’t change the fact that I won this argument, and showed you to be the bigot you are.

    Hmm, I think I will go read a book, actually.

    Oh and, http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=873731
    Michael Jackson’s brother doesn’t think the skit was intended to be offensive. Why don’t you go call him a fucking racist?

  12. “When you argue with a fool, chances are he is doing just the same”

  13. @ Tier… using excerpts:

    “First and foremost, Australia sucks.”
    No it doesn’t, it’s just a handful of idiots that ruin it for the rest of us!

    It’s the same in the situation with terrorists claiming to act in the name of Islam; It’s NOT a violent religion, it’s a bunch of people screwing it up for everyone else.
    It’s like the Crusades, kill for a religion that supports life… well THAT makes sense.
    Unless you are specific in your citations of groups that are proven to be evil as a whole, like Hitler’s inner circle, or the Ku Klux Klan… you’re just generalising.

    Australia, as a whole, does NOT suck!

    “Rap ‘artists’ will scream whitey, cracker and any other slur they can pull out of the bowl of retardery, but the second someone white doesn’t take it with a grain of salt, or responds with a slut, they’re hit with the wrath of almighty hell as if they were fresh from the SS in ‘44.”

    I’m pretty sure “retardery” isn’t a word. The less you use real words, and substitute others, the more your argument appears flawed. That’s not a dig, it’s just the truth.

    To Buck; Good job on this one! I’m Anglo-Indian and my caucasian friends couldn’t understand why I got upset at this, at least they weren’t called mudskin as a child.

    • So the biggest hole in my argument you can find is word play?
      Bravo I must say.
      Congratulations, you missed the point completely.
      Now riddle me this; where is the little box to tick to say you’re of European decent? I’ve often seen Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander. If you want to beat the drum that says we shouldn’t treat people differently because of their race, then where’s your opposition and rage that if you were to tick that little box you’d be granted some sort of benefit?
      Crusading for racial “equality” is a door that swings both ways.

  14. Its not racist. Australia is post-race.

    What that means is noone gives a flying fuck about race anymore, and we are free to bag out/make fun of all the wogs (fat and skinny), deigos, niggers, abos, honkies, nips, sepos and skips. If anyone takes offense, they just open themselves up to a more thorough bagging.

    NOONE GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT RACE. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS.

    You guys can sit around in one massive circle-jerk all you want, lamenting the poor downtrodden black guys and pretending to give a shit. Meanwhile, the black guys dont care and are busy working like fucking dogs like the rest of us, trying to make a decent living. And still noone gives a fat fuck.

    Seriously, just get over it and get back to work, ok?

  15. The link doesn’t work anymore. That’s all.

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